Comments for Parents for Quality Math Education

Comment on Thoughts about the Board Work Session (PVAAS & PSSA results) by povord

povord — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:02:40 +0000

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Comment on It’s strategic: Addition strategies – video #3 by Barb

Barb — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:39:15 +0000

All good points. A direct link to the Kahn Academy videos is a great idea! (Why reinvent the wheel?) I’m glad to hear that the Handbook is available to parents now, as it would appear to be beneficial. Given what I know about this curriculum, however, such a resource fails to solve the underlying problems with this curriculum and approach.

I absolutely agree that being able to flexibly manipulate numbers, understand how they relate to one another, and how various approaches can be useful in solving equations is important. Having third graders spending time spinning their wheels with unwieldy approaches may not be as helpful though.

The fact that Investigations and the homework it includes actively discouraged my son from using the US Standard Algorithm (and NEVER, heaven forbid, TAUGHT this approach) is a major and serious failure that will hinder many kids’ progress.

Comment on It’s strategic: Addition strategies – video #3 by Jim Leous

Jim Leous — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:55:12 +0000

I agree that this is the kind of video that we should be producing for the parents. I love the Kahn Academy stuff and we should include some of those at least until we can make our own on those topics.

With regard to the four approaches, I’m not sure strategy A, B, or C are designed for efficiency or speed. Rather they are designed to introduce concepts which will be useful to students at other levels of math.

I suspect method A emphasizes the concept of “place value,” i.e. the value of a digit changes depending on its place in a number. Both method B and C introduce students to the concept of balancing the equation which they will encounter in elementary algebra:

y = x+4
y – 4 = x +4 – 4
y – 4 = x

When going to the “benchmark” number by addition, the students have to remember to subtract what they added to balance the equation.

Clearly as the digits increase from 2 to N, the U.S. standard algorithm is the winner for speed, but I don’t think that’s what the purpose of multiple strategies is.

With regard to the Students’ Handbook, this came with my son’s Investigations 2 curriculum. My daughter doesn’t have one, so I suspect this is a I2 feature. It is very helpful.

Comment on Sample Outline for Third Grade Math Objectives by Barb

Barb — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:58:35 +0000

I should clarify — these are not standards required by SCASD for home-schoolers, merely an example of what home-school applicants are expected to provide to the district to be approved.

Given that home-schoolers must submit a portfolio to SCASD at the end of the year for review to show that the child received instruction and made adequate progress, these sample objectives may be one thing that home-school supervisors would be expected to have covered and their home-schooled child to have successfully met. Interesting, eh?

Comment on Sample Outline for Third Grade Math Objectives by Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:12:16 +0000

Barb,
That is amazing – the District has higher standards for home-schooled students than it does for students learning math in school. Do you know if the home-school standards are made up by the District, or the state?

This reminds me of when I was on the high school soccer team and two girls wanted to play on the boys’ team. I went to a small high school with no girls’ team and the boys’ team did not have tryouts, but the girls had to pass a rigorous fitness test (60 situps in a minute, etc.) before they could play on the team – a test boys did not have to take. At the time I wondered if the purpose of the test wasn’t just to discourage the girls from playing – the intent might be the same here.

Steve

Comment on Action Plan Expectations: Algorithms by Anastasia.

Anastasia. — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:04:31 +0000

All posts about expectations brought me to the next questions:
How SCASD expectations by level compare to national level? It is seems not. Why SCASD needs to come up with different expectations than national? Aren’t our kids going to go to the same universities as kids from all other districts and states? Alternatively, maybe school administration expects teachers in Middle schools and High school to patch up and speed up education there. I would like to hear some answers from Board members and school administration.

Comment on It’s time to aim higher by Anastasia

Anastasia — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:06:50 +0000

It is very unpleasant to realize that kids, who arriving into our area from third world countries (former USSR Asian republics) have better math skills, than our, from first world country (as we like to think). One cannot help to wonder if it is deliberate stupefying of our kids. What is ultimate reason for it? Is that some kind of job security? That is very scary.

Comment on “Action Plan” Expectations by Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:26:55 +0000

If you look at the curriculum SCASD had before Investigations was adopted, you can see that back then the expectations for our students were much, much higher. I remember my daughter learning decimals in third grade.

Comment on Rick Madore by Math Mom

Math Mom — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:59:57 +0000

It is indeed a sad day for the community. Rick Madore was a patient, gentle, and caring man who truly had the best interest of SCASD students in mind. He will be missed terribly.

Comment on The Con in Constructivism by Bruce Deitrick Price

Bruce Deitrick Price — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:30:32 +0000

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